{"id":1362,"date":"2025-11-21T17:24:30","date_gmt":"2025-11-21T22:24:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ameighs-christian-blog.info\/b2blog\/?p=1362"},"modified":"2026-05-24T08:09:56","modified_gmt":"2026-05-24T13:09:56","slug":"book-heaven-the-undiscovered-country-by-ron-rhodes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/ameighs-christian-blog.info\/b2blog\/index.php\/2025\/11\/21\/book-heaven-the-undiscovered-country-by-ron-rhodes\/","title":{"rendered":"Book:  Heaven the Undiscovered Country by Ron Rhodes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I found this book helpful, even when it needed clarifications here and there.\u00a0 Also, everyone may occasionally make a mistake.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Page 31 &amp; page 40: Quote<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;&#8230;..being <strong><span style=\"color: #ff00ff;\">asleep<\/span><\/strong> pertains only to the physical body and not to the soul. The soul does not sleep.\u00a0 It is fully conscious.\u00a0 The believer&#8217;s soul in the afterlife is fully awake and active in the presence of God.\u00a0 [Rev. 6:9-11]\u00a0 The unbeliever&#8217;s soul is fully conscious in a place of great suffering. [Luke 16:19-331]<\/p>\n<p>The Bible never speaks of soul sleeping, but only the body.\u00a0 That is because the body takes on the appearance of sleep at the moment of death.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Page 45:\u00a0 Quote<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The<span style=\"color: #ff00ff;\"><strong> rest<\/strong><\/span> will be a comprehensive rest.\u00a0 There will be rest from all toil of the body, all laborious work, all the diseases and frailties of the body, all outward sorrows, all inward troubles, all temptations and afflictions of Satan, and all doubts and fears.\u00a0 How blessed will be that rest.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>To relax or sleep: Ceasing exertion to recover energy<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>To lean or support: Letting an object lie on something else<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>In the Bible, rest represents much more than physical sleep or taking a break. It is a core spiritual concept meaning trust in God, freedom from striving, and reconciliation with the Creator. It signifies ceasing from our own efforts to control our lives and relying entirely on God\u2019s grace and provision.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>It means ceasing from trying to justify ourselves by our own works and fully resting in the completed, redemptive work of Jesus Christ. <\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>True restoration requires addressing different areas of depletion: physical, mental, sensory, creative, emotional, social, and spiritual rest. <\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Spiritual rest is a state of deep peace and soul-level rejuvenation. It is the practice of disconnecting from life\u2019s frantic pace to connect with a higher power [GOD], nature, or your core purpose. Rather than sleeping, it involves releasing the pressure to control everything and recalibrating your focus.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Page 56: Quote<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The word<strong>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #ff00ff;\">glory\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"color: #ff00ff;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">when used of God, refers to the luminous manifestation of God.\u00a0 &#8230;&#8230;.. brilliant light&#8230;..too brilliant for a mere mortal to witness.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>\u00a0Page 111: Clarification<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Angels are immortal.\u00a0 Fallen Angels and demons remain alive in the Lake of Fire, forever separated from God.<\/p>\n<p>No part of Angels\/Demons or unbelievers ever leave the Lake of Fire<\/p>\n<p>When a human [unbeliever] who is not immortal is thrown into the Lake of Fire, they never leave it. The human dies, burns up [dissolves] and dissipates into the Lake of Fire.\u00a0 That human exists no more and is separate from God forever.\u00a0 He no longer has memory, soul, spirit, or body.\u00a0 That human has dissolved into the substance of the Lake of Fire.<\/p>\n<p>For humans to remain alive in the Lake of Fire and suffer forever, the human would have to be immortal and humans who are unsaved are NOT immortal. The Lake of Fire is called the Lake of Fire.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #993366;\"><strong>There are many references in the book that this clarification pertains to although I have not repeated it each time.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Page 112: Clarification<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">God, Jesus, or Scripture <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>no where says<\/strong><\/span> unsaved humans get immortality before being thrown into the Lake of Fire.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Page 114:\u00a0 Clarification<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>God does NOT give unbelievers immortality at any time.\u00a0 Angels and demons are tormented day and night forever and ever, but humans burn up and are gone.<\/p>\n<p>However, in Hell awaiting the White Throne Judgement, their soul\/spirit is conscious and alive until they are judged and thrown into the Lake of Fire. Some have been there unsaved for 1000&#8217;s of years. However, this is NOT immortality which is forever and not 1000&#8217;s of years as God in God&#8217;s System.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Page 115:\u00a0 Clarification<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">At the beginning of 1000-year reign, Jesus separates the sheep from the goats.\u00a0 The goats will go to Hell to await the White Throne Judgement and then to the Lake of Fire.\u00a0 Unbeliever goats do not go immediately to the Lake of Fire, but go there at the appointed time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Fallen Angels and demons are in Hell, but they are in a separate part of Hell from the unbelievers.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"background-color: #ffffff; color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Page 116:\u00a0 Clarification<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Third sentence on page is wrong!\u00a0 However, unbelievers will remain in the Lake of Fire forever and be separated from God as they are dead and gone never to leave the Lake of Fire.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Page 117 and 118:\u00a0 Clarification<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The Lake of Fire is the &#8220;Second Death&#8221; The unbeliever&#8217;s soul, spirit, and body die, burn up and are forever in the lake of Fire.\u00a0 They are gone and separated from God forever to remain in the Lake of Fire.\u00a0 They are no longer alive, conscious, or aware of it\u00a0 anymore.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Page 125: clarification<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #993366;\">Purification from Sin [Sanctification] is not a license to sin without consequences<\/span>.<\/strong>\u00a0 You cannot sin knowingly &#8212; thinking I can sin and God will forgive me.\u00a0 You are suppose to abstain from sin with the help of God and Jesus through the Holy Spirit with God&#8217;s strength to do so.<\/p>\n<p>For forgiveness of a sin, you must recognize the sin, repent, and try to change your ways so you do not do so again &#8212; ALL through the strength and reliance on God via the Holy Spirit.\u00a0 Recognizing a sin can be in &#8220;general&#8221; as well as &#8220;specific&#8221;.\u00a0 God often teaches us what the sin is so we can not do it again.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Page 134: Quote<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8220;Because all human beings can see the revelation of God in creation, all people &#8211;regardless of whether they heard about Christ or read the Bible &#8212; are held accountable before God.\u00a0 <em>All are without excuse<\/em>.\u00a0 [Rom. 1:20]\u00a0 Their rightful condemnation, as objects of God&#8217;s Wrath, is justified because their choice to ignore the revelation of God in creation is indefensible.\u00a0 [Ps. 19:1-6]<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Page 144 &amp; 145: Clarification<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The Lake of Fire is the &#8220;Second Death&#8221; The unbeliever&#8217;s soul, spirit, and body die, burn up and are forever in the lake of Fire.\u00a0 They are gone and separated from God forever to remain in the Lake of Fire.\u00a0 They are no longer alive, conscious, or aware of it\u00a0 anymore.<\/p>\n<p>God does NOT give unbelievers immortality at any time.\u00a0 Angels and demons are tormented day and night forever and ever, but humans burn up and are gone.<\/p>\n<p>The last paragraph on page 145 is wrong!\u00a0 Rev 20: 11-15 does not say that at all!<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Page 146: clarification<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>What does carnal mean biblically?<\/p>\n<p><strong><u>AI Overview<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In the Bible, <strong>carnal<\/strong> refers to the &#8220;fleshly&#8221; or worldly nature of humanity. Derived from the Latin word for flesh (<em>caro<\/em>), it describes<strong><span style=\"color: #993300;\"> living according to base human instincts, physical desires, and earthly impulses rather than being guided by the Spirit of God<\/span><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Here is how carnal is used in scripture:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>The &#8220;Carnal Christian&#8221;:<\/strong> In 1 Corinthians 3:1-3, the Apostle Paul describes believers who are still acting like &#8220;mere men&#8221; as carnal. He points out that <strong><span style=\"color: #993300;\">their spiritual growth is stunted, leading to jealousy, division, and strife<\/span><\/strong>.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Hostility Toward God:<\/strong> In Romans 8:6-7, Paul states that<strong><span style=\"color: #993300;\"> &#8220;to be carnally minded is death&#8221;<\/span><\/strong> because <strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">the fleshly mind is naturally hostile to God and does not submit to His laws<\/span>..<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Physical vs. Spiritual:<\/strong> It highlights the contrast between physical limitations and spiritual realities, such as in Romans 15:27 where it refers to sharing in material (physical) blessings rather than spiritual ones.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Ultimately, <em><strong><span style=\"color: #993366;\">a carnal state indicates a focus on self, worldly pleasures, and the five physical senses.<\/span><\/strong> <strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Biblical teaching encourages believers to move away from carnality and allow their minds to be transformed by the Spirit.<\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>{My question is how can you be saved and remain carnal minded and carnal behavior instead of trying to following God&#8217;s Will?}<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gotquestions.org\/carnal-Christian.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Source of below: GotQuestions.com<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><mark class=\"HxTRcb\" data-sfc-root=\"c\" data-wiz-uids=\"x3BcNc_h\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-ved=\"2ahUKEwiAh5fs-9GUAxXPGoYAHQWZI_UQuJAPegoIAggACAAIBhAB\" data-complete=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: Google Sans, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(0, 29, 53);\"><span data-subtree=\"aimfl,mfl\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: Google Sans, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 500; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(0, 29, 53);\">A person can be carnal and be a Christian<\/span><!--TgQPHd|[]--><\/mark>, as a &#8220;carnal Christian&#8221; refers to a believer who is genuinely saved but struggles with spiritual immaturity and fleshly desires. However, this condition is viewed as a temporary stage of growth, not a permanent lifestyle of unrepentant sin. Genuine faith is expected to produce spiritual growth, fruit, and good works over time. A life continuously marked by habitual, unrepentant sin with absolutely no desire to follow Christ raises serious questions about the authenticity of a person&#8217;s faith.\u00a0 Will a true Christian remain carnal? No.<\/p>\n<p>Since eternal security is a fact of Scripture, even the carnal Christian is still saved. Salvation cannot be lost, because salvation is a gift of God that He will not take away (see <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><a class=\"BRST_a\" style=\"color: #000080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bibleref.com\/John\/10\/John-10-28.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"ESV.John.10.28 noopener\">John 10:28<\/a>; <a class=\"BRST_a\" style=\"color: #000080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bibleref.com\/Romans\/8\/Romans-8-37.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"ESV.Romans.8.37-39 noopener\">Romans 8:37-39<\/a>; <a class=\"BRST_a\" style=\"color: #000080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bibleref.com\/1-John\/5\/1-John-5-13.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"ESV.1 John.5.13 noopener\">1 John 5:13<\/a>).<\/span> Even in<span style=\"color: #000080;\"> <a class=\"BRST_a\" style=\"color: #000080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bibleref.com\/1-Corinthians\/3\/1-Corinthians-3-15.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"Corinthians.3.15 ESV.1 noopener\">1 Corinthians 3:15<\/a><\/span>, the carnal Christian is assured of salvation: \u201cIf anyone\u2019s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.\u201d The question is not whether a person who claims to be a Christian but lives carnally has lost his salvation, but whether that person was truly saved in the first place <span style=\"color: #000080;\">(<a class=\"BRST_a\" style=\"color: #000080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bibleref.com\/1-John\/2\/1-John-2-19.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"ESV.1 John.2.19 noopener\">1 John 2:19<\/a>).<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Christians who become carnal in their behavior can expect God to lovingly discipline them <span style=\"color: #000080;\">(<a class=\"BRST_a\" style=\"color: #000080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bibleref.com\/Hebrews\/12\/Hebrews-12-5.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"ESV.Hebrews.12.5-11 noopener\">Hebrews 12:5-11<\/a>)<\/span> so they can be restored to close fellowship with Him and be trained to obey Him. God\u2019s desire in saving us is that we would progressively grow closer to the image of Christ <span style=\"color: #000080;\">(<a class=\"BRST_a\" style=\"color: #000080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bibleref.com\/Romans\/12\/Romans-12-1.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"ESV.Romans.12.1-2 noopener\">Romans 12:1-2<\/a>)<\/span>, becoming increasingly spiritual and decreasingly carnal, a process known as sanctification. Until we are delivered from our sinful flesh, there will be outbreaks of carnality. For a genuine believer in Christ, though, these outbreaks of carnality will be the exception, not the rule.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I found this book helpful, even when it needed clarifications here and there.\u00a0 Also, everyone may occasionally make a mistake. Page 31 &amp; page 40: Quote &#8220;&#8230;..being asleep pertains only to the physical body and not to the soul. The soul does not sleep.\u00a0 It is fully conscious.\u00a0 The believer&#8217;s soul in the afterlife is [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1362","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-books"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/ameighs-christian-blog.info\/b2blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1362","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/ameighs-christian-blog.info\/b2blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/ameighs-christian-blog.info\/b2blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/ameighs-christian-blog.info\/b2blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/ameighs-christian-blog.info\/b2blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1362"}],"version-history":[{"count":29,"href":"http:\/\/ameighs-christian-blog.info\/b2blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1362\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1511,"href":"http:\/\/ameighs-christian-blog.info\/b2blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1362\/revisions\/1511"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/ameighs-christian-blog.info\/b2blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1362"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/ameighs-christian-blog.info\/b2blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1362"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/ameighs-christian-blog.info\/b2blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1362"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}